Saturday, June 15, 2024

Just one of many similar independent views: MASSIVE CRISIS: Petrodollar Collapse & & Banking Threats Will Crash the US Economy | Andy Schectman


 

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the banking sector really is a scary place to leave your money largely because it's uninsured uh uh to you know

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a large degree um it's it's overvalued it's it's under capitalized and

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overleveraged I think leaving your money in the bank right now is as risky as it gets we're almost 200 trillion in debt

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we're broke we're insolvent uh we're divided we're not United our country is is looked at as a laughing stock with

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the border the elections Judicial System all of this craziness that we see happening is not lost on the rest of the

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world and so yeah I I think this is going to only get more and more real Lena and people need to prepare and and

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that means getting their house in order like a hurricane is coming a financial hurricane um but also a real

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hurricane hello everyone welcome back today I have With Me Andy shackman Andy

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is the owner of Miles Franklin and investment company that specializes in Precious Metals the company was founded

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by Andy and his father back in 1989 Andy it's so good to see you welcome back Lena it's great to be here

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thanks for having me it just seems that things are starting to spin a little faster I don't know if it's me but sure

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seems like it is anyway but it's great to be back thanks for having me absolutely now it's it's great to have

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you I have so many questions for you and things that I would like to discuss and I know our viewers are certainly looking

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forward to hearing from you too I saw multiple comments saying please bring Andy back and um yeah I was looking

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forward to this conversation like um so we're starting to hear more and

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more about the issues in the banking sector the banking industry is facing um

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trouble and we see commercial banks are carrying more than $517 billion dollars in unrealized

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losses on their books the FDIC recently issued a report indicating that at least

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63 Banks us-based Banks are at risk of insolvency so that's really bad news and

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uh of course another thing we have to talk about is commercial real estate commercial real estate debt is clearly a

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taking time bomb and um now that the fed the other day indicated that there will

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be just one rate cut I think it's fair to say that refinancing the commercial

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uh commercial real estate loans would be more challenging so what is your take on on the stability of the banking sector

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in the United States I think the banking sector is a ticking Time Bomb it's massively

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overleveraged and massively under capitalized and the I mean if you look

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at the commercial real estate situation Lena it is a ticking Time Bomb I mean I

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think you can see that in no greater example than what we recently saw in St

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Louis where the former 1 AT&T Center the third largest building in in all of St

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Louis 40 44 stories tall which was sold for $25 million to a Real Estate

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Investment Trust in 2006 just sold for $3.6 million now think about that for a

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moment how do we continue to see these types of of literally um destruction of

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equity and and massive hits to the balance sheets of these Regional Banks before we start to see a very big

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problem a trillion and half dollars or more in these leases and loans that that

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need to to to be reset within the next year all at higher rates spells very big

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problems for a banking sector that you know at during the pandemic was allowed

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to relinquish reserve requirements down to zero and so yeah I think we are nowhere near out of the woods yet for

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the banks and and quite frankly you had Powell saying that we will see uh

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consolidations that's not to be uh surprised and um look I would simply say

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to you that that we're a long way away from being safe in the banks and when we

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talk about the FDIC it has 130 billion or so in assets backing over 18 trillion

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in deposits you know people most people there are a lot of people who don't understand the significance of this they

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don't understand that bail-ins were written into law in The Dodd Frank act most people don't even know what a

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bailin is in essence the depositors are un unsecured General creditors I.E the

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last to be paid in a banking issue what's happened is that uh you know the

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banks that have have failed already first you had silicone and signature that we legally bailed out by the fed by

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Janet Yellen uh by by um the president you know she said it was a uber majority

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vote between the fomc the F FDIC herself and the president but made it very clear

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that if banks fail in the future that they won't be bailed out they will be bailed in unless they are deemed through

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an Uber majority vote to be too systemic the other banks that have failed have been gobbled up by the likes of JP

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Morgan or other larger Regional Banks so people really haven't had to think about

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the significance of a bank bailin which basically means anything above the FDC

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level which we just just um talked about as being fugazi um goes in to the to the the

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kitty to bail in the indiscretions of the bank and I think that you know just

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by them telling us that they're all these troubled banks these problem Banks

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more indication that it will happen and you know they lay crumbs at your feet so that they can say see we told you but

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the question really becomes what happens if it starts to become systemic this is why credit Swiss had to be bailed out by

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UBS and and and why silicon and signature had to be bailed out because there are banks that are systemically

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tied through derivatives to the industry that if they go the daisy chain really I

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think could be something that we really don't have an idea of how fast it plays out and what does happen but leaving

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more money than the FDIC BS limit covers into a bank I think

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is is really naive at this point absolutely and um in terms of

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commercial real estate because that's what's sort of driving the volume of unrealized losses what is your

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expectation let's say for the next six months uh till the year end do you do

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you think that we will see the same type of uh short sales and selling at a

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really significant loss throughout the United States or do you think it will mostly concentrate in in certain uh

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Market areas I think it'll be in you know they call it the urban Doom Loop where people are moving away from the

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big cities as things get worse and then things get worse because people are moving away from the big cities there's

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something called the cloward Piven theory that people should check out it blew my mind when I read it it's about

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um it it it speaks to a husband and wife cloward and Piven they were um

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professors at Columbia University in the 60s interesting that Obama went there as did mine Albright and Bill bar and Eric

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Holder and um you know many of the people who are influential including Jared Bernstein this knucklehead uh

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Chief Financial or chief economic adviser to the um to the Biden

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Administration I'm sure many people have seen that that video that was going around Twitter where he really embarrassed himself and and the Office

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of the of the presidency really as being the chief economic adviser but this is you know this is a guy that that went to

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school there too and the whole thing of it is to overwhelm the system the inner cities uh through mass mass

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participation on entitlement welfare system and on uh blowing up the inner

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cities I mean if you look at 17 million people that have come into this country illegally a large part portion of them

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are in these big blue cities which now by the way they're trying to give uh extra votes in the Electoral College to

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these blue cities I mean you can't make it up but the whole premise is to create a surf Dum of people that will never

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vote Republican that will in essence render the elections moot because they will always vote for the Dole and the

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premise is that you overwhelm the system and which leads to Universal basic income and and on the way to socialism

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let's hope it doesn't happen but this was taught and if you read about the cloward Piven Theory you'll be like my

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goodness gracious this is what they're doing but this is what's happening in the inner cities people are moving away

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because of what you see in the inner cities and and and they have no interest in going to work in these uh tall office

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buildings that have you know a massive carry cost if they can work from home and feel safe and that's what you see

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happening so I think it will be concentrated in places like you know New York City San Francisco any of the big

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inner cities Philadelphia where you're seeing a a massive amount of Migrant

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issues and uh people working from home these these loans these these leases are

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real and people are just walking away from them and yeah I I think because it

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it feeds upon itself when all of the people leave the office buildings what happens to the restaurants and the bars

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and the shops around it and and they start to leave and then it just feeds upon itself so yeah I I think that this

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is really a very big problem that people should keep a close eye on right and um one of my uh videos was

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focused on the commercial real estate State debt and how it impacts the banking system and um I noticed that

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there were several comments that were effectively kind of very similar and they said well why are they selling

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these multi-million dollar commercial real estate buildings you know many of them are downtown so very very good

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locations well what used to be a good location um why are they selling them at a loss instead of waiting and just you

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know seeing if things get better and my take on it is exactly like you just pointed out is that their forecast their

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expectation is not good they they don't expect there to be U nice restaurants

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around they don't expect there to be um many nice uh entertainment ven venues or

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things that would attract people whom they want to um see as their customers

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moving forward yeah exactly and you have to understand that the difference between a home mortgage and a commercial

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real estate loan is that they're largely non recourse uh if for the commercial

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real estate me meaning that there is no recourse you just give them the keys and say I'm out and you lose whatever you had into it but when you take a look at

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these buildings the maintenance of these buildings is worth more than they're bringing in it's as if I placed a very

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very large order for a client who says I want $10 million worth of silver and the price of Silver Falls by a dollar and

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I'm out tens of thousands of dollars because the client disappears and doesn't pay for the order do I hold it

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and wait for it to hopefully come back what if it falls another dollar and then another at what point do you realize my

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goodness this is this is a weight around my ankles and I'm falling into the water what happens so I think it it's a

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decision that has to be made it's not one that people really like to make but these are real situations what's

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happening to the inner cities to me Lena is is is just horrific and very sad when

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you see lawlessness in the inner cities when you see police officers beat up in Manhattan in broad daylight when you see

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this this um you know wonderful places like San Francisco turn into and and and

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um uh what's the the capital of California I was just there I couldn't

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believe my eyes uh why Sacramento I mean you can't believe what you see when you walk down these streets tents and people

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doing drugs right out in front of you and you're not really going to want to walk to a ball game or to dinner or back

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to your car at the end of the night or I mean any of these things you're not going to let your 16-year-old daughter

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work at a at a at a you know at a mall in the inner city in one of these big

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malls just like the big one in San Francisco biggest one they just shut the doors and left the biggest hotel in San

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Francisco gave back the keys because at some point it just becomes ridiculous

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and I think that's where we're at right now I mean there'll be Parts where you don't see these horrible uh parts of the

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country where you don't see these these this type of horrible um Market action but remember it's the regional banks

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that hold 70% of the commercial loans and so it doesn't have to be in your

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state where this happens for it to affect you because the systemic nature of all of these Banks and how they're

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all tied together and through derivatives and the reinsurance and all of these things that are all tied

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together systemically has a far-reaching effect but yeah I think it it's naive to think that the commercial real estate

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problem will not really begin to put strain on the banks and by a broader uh

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stroke also the economy because you're seeing these inner cities just start to shrivel up many of them anyway and and I

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think it's just beginning the urban D Doom Loop so uh as the big as the big

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money leaves these cities goes to places like Texas and Florida um South Dakota

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Wyoming and moving away from the craziness what's going to happen to everyone who's still there if they have

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the ability to move they will and if not it will just become worse and worse and worse and these big these big highrises

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that have huge nuts attached to them um you know what happens there I don't know do they turn turn them into public

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housing I'm not really quite sure but I will also tell you that it doesn't help the situation when you've had years

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worth of zerob bound federal funds rate and really low interest rates and really

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you know copious amounts of money poured into the system where the the valuations of these buildings have gotten way out

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of control way out of whack the price Discovery what is the real value as rates go higher and to find equilibrium

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between Rising rates and property value is going to be a very painful experience as well so the valuations on these Banks

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balance sheets most of them are fugazy when you see a building in St Louis that

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sells for $3.6 million that was $25 million 12 years ago Houston we got a

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problem a big problem and and that's just the tip of the iceberg so I guess

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we'll see how it plays out but if I were a betting man yeah you wouldn't see the Federal Reserve Chief say yeah there's

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going to be a lot of bank consolidations that's a nice way of of saying it he's telling us there's going to be more

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problems in the banking sector and um I think we're by no stretch of the imagination out of the woods and then

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you know we could also look at at these fintech companies like we see beginning to have problems like we just saw here

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last week the fintech companies that where there's disputes about the amount of money that is owed between the you

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know the fintech company and the banks that they're representing so there's a lot of of stuff right now where the

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banking sector really is a scary place to leave your money largely because it's uninsured uh uh to you know a large

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degree um it's it's overvalued it's it's under capitalized and overleveraged I

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think leaving your money in the bank right now is as risky as it gets some people predict the banking

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crisis to be worse than that of 200 eight and of course that's that's that's

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really bad news of course the scenarios and the circumstances are completely different but if that's what's in store

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for us a 2008 style financial crash what does that mean for consumers what does

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that mean for small businesses or those who have small businesses and most

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importantly how long do you think that it could last I think things can go longer than

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anyone thinks possible and you know um I I I what does it what does it mean

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for the average consumer I mean look look at look at this um what's the name

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of the bank uh synapse and the Tennessee based evolve Banking Trust and and

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synaps was the middleman this fintech and they're saying that $112 million that people have have been locked out

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and there's a disagreement between how much money is owed to to the bank through you know the

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middleman is saying well we don't know that much and and then you have the CEO say we never imagined a scenario like

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this could play out that no regulator would step in and help I guess what does it mean is that I think people have a a

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a misguided sense of safety with FDIC um with with funds being insured um

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look one big bank failure in FDIC is insolvent and when you realize that you

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know they only have 130 or 40 billion back in 18 trillion this could go a

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whole lot worse and if you look at the bailout legislation uh and read about it

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it basically says that the FDIC has a couple of mandates in this when this happens and the first is to is to you

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know make sure that the assets are redistributed the

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the general the the depositor is is uninsured General creditor um and they

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end up getting paid last anything over the FDIC number but that FDIC number of 250,000 they have up to four years to

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pay it out uh and so when you any any of the excess would be paid out in stock of

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the new bank that takes over for it know people are going to dump that stock immediately because the stock doesn't

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pay the bill I think it can go a whole lot worse than people imagine because look the truth of it is this all it

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really takes is for One bank to be bailed in just one because the public doesn't know what bail-ins mean and One

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Bank gets bailed in and people say my God they lost everything and and it would create a panic like you could not

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imagine and it it what starts out as a trickle turns into a flood and you know how could something like this happened

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well you know a lot of the things that I've talked about with you and with others for four years is about the loss

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of the Petro dollar status and the the demand for the dollar globally has has been synthetic since last 50 years since

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74 everyone's had the stockpile dollars well I'm sure you've already covered the fact that Saudi Arabia has has agree or

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or decided to not reup the Petr dollar exclusivity deal with the United States

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meaning they can sell their oil and any other currency they want and so what does that mean for the demand for the dollar that synthetic demand is is now

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fractured the dollar hegemony is over what does it mean how fast will other countries stop stop accumulating dollars

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and accumulate other forms of currency to purchase energy that's really the question and what would it mean when all

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of those dollars come flooding home and hit our Shores creating much much higher inflation than we're expected to receive

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or or to deal with and the byproduct of that spike in inflation is interest rates have to rise to compensate for it

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this is not controlled by Powell but by the market what would the industry look like the banking industry at 10%

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interest rates Boom the whole thing blows up and so now you start to see massive systemic problems where several

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banks are failing all at once FDIC can't handle it banks are bailed in you ask me

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are I ask you what happens then how do people react when a dozen 15 20 30 banks

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have failed because they're all underwater and how about the insurance companies that are loaded with treasuries which have done poorly in the

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last year and a half with the 500 basis point increase in rates what happens when that happens when rates Spike and

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they start to fracture the amount of panic I think would be extraordinary so

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you know this is the thing I think you have to be proactive you it's like buying Insurance health insurance no one

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wants to confront their own mortality it's like buying homeowners insurance you don't get mad when you come home

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after paying your your your your home insurance premium and your house hasn't burned down you're not upset about that

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but if it did you're you know you did the right thing it's the same thing here if you're not a contrarian you're bound to be a victim when this all breaks

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loose and I think the probability of a breaking loose Grows by the day but you know a modern monetary theorist would

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want this they would want a calling of the banks and that's L brainer number two at the White House in terms of

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economic advisory policy modern monetary theorists ran point to Fed now develop the cbdc with MIT well she's really

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happy that we see Bank consolidations how big does the problem go uh what

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triggers it well that's anyone's guess but I I'll tell you this I would not want to wait and find out and that's why

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I tell people you know one place to go is is fed direct. goov or fedn now.gif

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and buy treasuries of very very very short duration disintermediating the banks because I think the banks are in

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trouble and I don't know which ones or how fast or how systemic but everything that I see around me will tell me that

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they're in trouble and especially when you look at the problems with commercial real estate which would then spill over

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into residential real estate because a four or 3% mortgage is fantastic until you lose your job and then what happens

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so all of the assets that we value have been loan to Skyhigh proportions with zero bound federal funds rate for the

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last 20 years and and easy money created distortions and asset prices and when we see rates rise uh which I think we will

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because look the rest of the world isn't buying our bonds anymore we've proven the weaponization of the dollar is about as stupid as it can get and now we just

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voted to actually confiscate Russian assets and give them to the Ukraine I mean that's about as dumb as dumb gets

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and almost too stupid to be stupid and so as the rest of the world buys commodi ities instead of treasuries which I

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believe have become more valuable than the currency you purchase them with um and playing by a new set of rules uh you

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will see rates rise and the strain that puts on the system the banks uh the commercial real estate the companies

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around it the businesses around it and the economy at large will start to have systemic effects and reverberate through

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the entire economy I think that this is not just centered on Commercial Real Estate it is a symptom of a bigger

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problem and when commercial real estate blows up and the banks blow up then what happens and so I think you have to look

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two or three steps ahead but Lena I think it's never been more important to to think differently to be a contrarian

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to think outside the box and and safety in the banks is something that is a misconception in my mind that always

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never was but it is now it seems it really does seem that

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we're in a perfect storm right so not only is it becoming obvious that uh the banking sector is is in serious trouble

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but also the Petra dollar agreement with Saudi Arabia just expired it wasn't renewed and it was clear I think leading

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up to the expiration that Saudi Arabia wasn't really going to play along the same lines as it did maybe 50 years ago

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so I guess my question is what is um what is your take on the expiration of

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the deal itself why did we the United States did we attempt to renew it did we

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have maybe alternative ways to ensure that uh the Petro dollar status would be

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maintained going forward was there a plan or is it just something that was you know and let's just say an

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oversight well look I mean like I said Jared Bernstein's thesis is to lose the world Reserve status that's first and

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foremost and and if you wanted to lose the world Reserve status you make a big deal about going green you sign

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executive orders to do so and then you weaponize a dollar and not just weaponize it but confiscate and when I

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say confiscate let's just call call it what it is it's stealing and that's what they're doing and you make the entire

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southern hemisphere say my God I mean we're next we're out so much so that gold is now the second largest held in

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in all Global Central Bank Reserves exceeding the Euro for the first time ever and so the dollar and the Euro are

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falling out of Central Bank Reserves and gold jumped to its highest level um in

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27 years at almost 18% reserves if we believe the numbers that that we hear

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but look this is a very very very very big deal there was just a meeting you know we talked about 200 meetings bricks

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meetings leading up to the big one in October there was just one in novag where 21,000 people attended from 139

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Nations there were 80 billion dollar nearly signed of bilateral deal signed

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on the sidelines these are deals that are no longer using the dollar for settlement you chip away at the dollar

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settlement the the the the these countries selling treasuries and buying gold chips away at the reserve status 59

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Nations we are told officially will plan to join the bricks um 59 this is no longer a very um small uh

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nothing Burger this is something very significant is encompassing the majority of human population three of the four

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largest nuclear arsenals on the planet the majority of global GDP all I mean

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there was just an article and I think it's all it's very important that this

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is all put together but there was just an article that came out by um JP Morgan

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and let me see if I can find it right here I think I can which says that

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China controls the majority of all of the rare earth metals and I just want to

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read this really really quick because I think it's important that we put all of

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this together this this whole this whole growing group of countries put together

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and says that um bear with me here it is in 202 this

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is from JP Morgan and their research analyst her name is Amy ho she's the global head of um she's the executive

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director of strategic research and Joyce Chang the global head of research and it says that the current tariff

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announcement on the 18 billion of Chinese Imports has elevated the debate on whether China's dominance in the critical mineral supply chain will

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emerge as the latest Battleground for us China strategic competition and I know you asked me about Saudi but they're all

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tied together China produces 68% of the world's Rare Earth uh things like mag

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which are used for things like magnets and batteries 70% of its graphite which is used for lubricants electric motors

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and and nuclear reactors but the real dominance lies in the processing China process 100% of the world's graphite

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Supply 90% of the rare Earths and 74% of the Cal balt we haven't thought this out

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very well and so when you realize all these countries are joining together based upon Commodities as zultan posar

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said why would the Saudis want to take our currency which we have proven we're going to choose inflation over austerity

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uh for for oil why would they want our bond uh our bonds that have formed

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poorly and more importantly have become weaponized and we will take them from you and even use them to fund the

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country you're in a war against if we don't align ideologically so what you are seeing is something that is a lot

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bigger than it appears on the surface and I think what we are seeing is is a a growing chorus of

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countries that are finding safety and numbers and when you realize that every country in the world's had to accumulate

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and hold dollars literally since 1974 and this now is over you're seeing these

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countries I think use that as motivation to accelerate this Union and James

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Rickards has an interesting take on things and and he talks about the reason we haven't seen the com settlement

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currency yet is because he they need to have greater mass and if indeed you have

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560 countries that want to do this you now have mass his his theory is regardless of the gold backing of the

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currency which it may be I mean why else would gold be reclassified tier one why are the central banks buying it the way

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they are using the suppression of the Western Market to run cover for it the paper price in

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essence but he says look there's 10 countries right now and if they sell

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with one another even in a common settlement currency those 10 countries are the only ones that will accept it so

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how do you go shopping if you only have nine other countries to choose from well if you have 50 or 60 countries on board

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now you have 50 or 60 countries that you can buy goods and services from you have the majority of human population of

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global GDP of military might all of the shipping lanes and and and the natural

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resources they are doing this very methodically they are thinking this out um very seriously they've also

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officially applied to project embridge and I know you've talked about that before I've talked about it it came out

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in 2021 and project embridge is a very big deal project embridge is a joint um

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Central Bank uh digital currency crossborder payment system that was developed by China Hong Kong Thailand

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and the United be of emirats and I've been saying for a while now that I think gold and oil have been

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remonetized um completely and totally they are being used as as money viewed

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as money more important than the dollar bills that buy them and the first two trades that they did in 2023 their test

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trades that China did with this was the first one for oil and the second one for gold using the digital youan and

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crossborder payment well now you have as of June 5th Saudi Arabia has joined a chin dominated Central Bank digital

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currency cross border trial in what would be another step towards less of the world's oil trade being done in

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dollars the move announced by the bis on Wednesday will see Saudi Arabia Central Bank become a full participant of

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project embridge and at the same time you just got um the Saudi Crown Prince turned down an invitation today to go to

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the G7 meeting so he's strengthening his ties with the bricks joining the the the

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the Belt Road with all the other OPEC countries joining the bricks new development Bank joining the Shanghai

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cooperation Organization no longer selling oil just for dollars and making that very well known um joining project

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embridge I mean you can see little by little by little they are entrenching themselves with with this portion of the

30:38

world that you know and now they're saying we don't want to go to the G7 meeting and use as an excuse for it you

30:44

can see this is real and what is the significance when they finally there there's a theory out there called

30:50

project Sandman I don't know if you're familiar with it or not but project Sandman is basically and and I don't

30:56

know how how much verac we put into it but 150 175 countries that have agreed

31:02

to dump the dollar and the treasury all at the same time when that is what is the trigger

31:07

don't know but by not renewing the Petro dollar deal I would say that's a pretty damn big trigger if you ask

31:13

me you brought up so many important things you brought out China's capacity to uh produce to um refine um natural

31:23

resources which of course plays uh to its strength to affect actively

31:28

manufactures thanks to its transition that it has already started um years ago

31:34

when it invested into its uh industrial base to make sure that it is efficient

31:39

that it doesn't use too much energy and that it's able to produce Goods at a very low price point that will of course

31:45

attract buyers across the world and of course you brought up the Petra dollar and uh project embridge so

31:53

um this is truly a perfect storm and I think people here in the United States they're not hearing about all of this

31:59

because the mainstream media is absolutely omitting this they're acting as if this is not happening um but what

32:07

can an average person let's just say a person who's working you know 9 to-5 um

32:14

what can they do given all of this information what would you do if you were that person to protect your assets

32:22

I know gold of course is a safe haven asset but what would be like the top three things that you would do uh after

32:29

hearing uh this information I would do best I could to to mitigate my exposure

32:34

to traditional assets um like stocks like bonds um I would uh do the best I

32:41

could to get out of debt and get rid of variable rate debt especially um do the

32:46

best you can to pay off any variable rate debt or consolidate variable rate debt into a fixed rate if you have the

32:52

ability to do so I would pay yourself first and let the laws of compounding work for you instead against you and pay

32:59

yourself first meaning if you don't pay yourself first if you're always just trying to uh make ends meet and not

33:06

paying yourself first um you'll never get off the wheel you'll never get out of the Rat Race you have to let the laws

33:12

of compounding work for you instead of against you so you know it's easier said than done I guess and I'm not trying to

33:19

to ignore that I know 65% of this country is live living paycheck to paycheck and 45% earning over six

33:27

figures paycheck to paycheck so what do you do you try to get out of debt you try to pay yourself first um and you

33:34

prepare for a hurricane a financial hurricane you have food and water and batteries and things that you would need

33:40

to survive for a few months you have some small denomination currency fives and tens and 20s at home as much as you

33:47

can have safely at home you buy some gold you buy some silver small silver coins doesn't matter how much when I

33:54

started this company with my father um 34 years ago Lena he told me that

34:00

there'd only be one ruler he'd fire me and this was the greatest gift my dad's ever given me or anyone for that matter

34:06

and he said I need to buy something gold or silver every two weeks when I get paid period That's was 34 years ago and

34:11

I've owned my company for over two decades he's been retired I talk to him every day he won't fire me anymore but

34:18

I've honored my promise to him and I bought something every two weeks for 34 years and it's money to me it's wealth

34:24

it's not an investment and and it was the greatest great gift he ever gave me told me how to prioritize taught me how

34:31

to prioritize myself and my future first and and show me how to let laws of

34:36

compounding and cost averaging work for me that is the best advice I can give because I do think this is real look we

34:43

live in a just in time Society all of this stuff would come at the expense of credit as well as rates rise and Banks

34:50

collapse you will see a massive credit contraction and just as bullish as as easy money and and and and and wide

34:58

openen credit um has been for asset prices the opposite would be in play if all of a

35:04

sudden credit contracts tremendously just think about how much credit is used to bring a loaf of bread to a grocery

35:11

store starting with the farmer who's on credit to buy the the you know his his um his giant tractor whatever they're

35:18

called uh and the and the the seeds to plant the field and once he Harvest it he has to deliver the the wheat to the

35:25

the trucking company who's on credit to buy the trucks and the diesel fuel who delivers it to to the um uh to the you

35:32

know the grain silo where they they turn it into wheat they're on credit and then back to the truck to bring it to the

35:39

baker they're on credit the baker's on credit to bake the bread who then gives it back to the truck who's on credit to

35:45

deliver it to the grocery store there's so many pieces of credit that touch just

35:50

a simple loaf of bread going from you know seed to finished product at the

35:55

grocery store we're just in time but that's just one thing so I think people need to understand that this isn't just

36:01

about the banks and the economy or the dollar this is also about everything because the whole world lives on credit

36:08

and when we see a massive credit contraction that would be brought on by a massive dollar devaluation rates

36:15

Rising Banks collapsing everything is tied together and that's you know why I

36:21

think it becomes even more distressing when you see what's happening in this country um the lawlessness the open

36:27

borders you know the election questions the judicial system questions all of the things that have created a country that

36:33

is no longer United makes it only that much worse I think you have to prioritize yourself right now and save

36:41

the world one person at a time starting with yourself uh I wish my message was more

36:46

cheery Lena but I think we are getting to a point where look you got the big bricks meeting in October and the

36:51

election in November and things seem to be spinning faster and faster and faster and faster every single day do we really

36:58

think that it will be smooth sailing between now and the end of the year and even if we do have an election God

37:04

willing half the country is going to be angry so I think you need to prepare as if there's a big storm coming and what

37:10

does that storm look like well use your imagination how bad could it get God Only Knows hope for the best prepare for

37:16

the worst and if you prepare and it everything is smooth sailing so what you leave your gold and silver to your

37:22

family members you donate food to a food shelf or eat it you you know reluctantly prepare pring is something that needs to

37:28

be done like buying life insurance I think this has never been more important and the Saudis not only snubbing the G7

37:35

but not renewing the Petro dollar deal and all of the moves that they have made along with the United barab Emirates who

37:41

last time you and I talked we talked about how they have publicly said we don't want to take the dollar anymore

37:46

and they were the seventh largest exporter of oil in the world a brics member right alongside Saudi Arabia and

37:52

an OPEC member so this is starting to become reality how bad does it get how

37:58

fast does it happen I don't know but it is scary to your point that people are not able to get out of the way of what

38:04

they don't see coming and I haven't heard this or seen any of this on the mainstream at

38:09

all absolutely I I don't think I've seen anything either and but I think since I

38:15

started this channel I'm seeing more and more people uh starting to realize that the current uh monetary system The

38:22

Current financial system is based on the confidence in the United States economy

38:28

and since not many people seem to have that much confidence in the US economy right now due

38:34

to high national debt it's it's absolutely surging uh due to deficits

38:41

spending um all of these things consumer uh delinquency rates are rising as well

38:47

so things are definitely starting to um show some cracks at this conference um

38:53

that just ended on June 7th uh you have Putin who said the Breton Wood's monetary system is dead and gone and the

38:59

current one is based on the confidence in the US economy he said there is no other guarantee so to say other than

39:06

confidence in the US economy and the current Global Financial system and and that's right and and confidence behind a

39:12

system that's lost its bearing that's creating a trillion dollars in debt every hundred days that is going around

39:18

the world imposing sanctions and stealing money from other countries and giving it to the country they're fighting a war against as the world

39:23

Reserve currency who is largely viewed as being hypocritical across the entire southern hemisphere uh it's it's it's

39:30

true I mean we used to be backed by gold we aren't we are Fiat and now Nations don't need to stockpile dollars to buy

39:37

oil according to the deal not being um reup yeah this is a big deal what is the

39:42

dollar other than you know the confidence of an economy that is now a

39:47

country that is now uh 34 almost 35 trillion in debt plus Medicare Part B 99

39:54

trillion in the whole Medicare Part D the prescriptions 22 Social Security 77

39:59

trillion we're almost 200 trillion in debt we're broke we're insolvent uh we're divided we're not United our

40:05

country is is looked at as a laughing stock with the border the elections Judicial System all of this craziness

40:10

that we see happening is not lost on the rest of the world and so yeah I I think

40:16

this is going to only get more and more real Lena and people need to prepare and and that means getting their house in

40:22

order like a hurricane is coming a financial hurricane um but also a real hurricane and the respect that you

40:28

should have things like food and water and batteries and dog food and anything that you think you need because if

40:35

things got really really bad how fast would the grocery stores be empty and and I hate to sound this way but I think

40:41

you know when you realize that 17 million people have entered this country illegally they just busted you know

40:47

eight or nine people uh that had you know terrorist affiliations that were

40:53

planning on doing damage look if 1% of these people want to mess with the country prior to the election in some

40:59

awful way that's what 170,000 people so how about 5% that's bigger than any

41:05

standing army and and they're in this country and and you know how significant is it I'll let you all decide that and

41:13

but I as a father of three kids I've never been more scared uh about this and

41:19

again buying gold and silver Lena it's not to get wealthy It Is wealth that has outlived everything the world's ever

41:25

thrown at it and at the same time the central banks are buying it at levels the world's never seen uh first quarter

41:31

2024 outpace first quarter 2023 is the biggest ever Bank of India just bought

41:36

one and a half times what they bought all of last year in the first four months of the year and brought home 100 metric tons from the bank of England uh

41:44

Saudi Arabia Egypt and a half a dozen uh African countries repatriated all their gold from the New York fed the

41:50

counterparty risk the loss of trust we've shattered the glass against the the wall how do you put it back together

41:57

before Mom and Dad get home you don't it's impossible now maybe Trump can slow things down a bit but I wonder have we

42:03

crossed that line where we will ever have trust again the way we once did and

42:09

when you realize just how indebted we are at the same time you have you know complete and total lack of of

42:16

fiscal um responsibility uh it's completely irrational the amount of money that we spend and the debt we're

42:22

creating a trillion dollars every hundred days um this is not getting better anytime soon and and nor will

42:30

inflation I don't care what they say look take imagine the the budget is balanced right now you still have 200

42:37

175 trillion in unfunded liabilities who's going to pay for Medicare Medicaid Social Security and government military

42:43

pensions who's going to pay the the the Congressional budget office said by 2031

42:49

100% of tax revenue will go just to pay the interest on the debt and mandatory

42:55

entitlement like Social Security which means military spending which is discretional would have to be borrowed

43:00

that doesn't take into account the 17 million people who are in this country illegally who's going to pay for them

43:05

their clothes their food their medical their schooling their housing I mean we haven't thought this through and I just

43:13

think it's about time that it's going to accelerate and I think um if I had to

43:20

guess something will happen between now and the end of the year that are going to Rattle people and wake people up and

43:27

maybe it's commercial real estate maybe it's the banks maybe it's some awful event God forbid I don't know what it is

43:33

but to think that it's not and to see the Petro dollar deal not be reup and to see the Crown Prince turn down going to

43:39

the G7 meeting and to see all of these things 50 plus countries want to join the Bricks now and have want to formally

43:47

apply um yeah this is getting real what started out four years ago when I was

43:52

talking about this as a crazy theory has frighteningly turned real and I I think

43:58

that this is something people people need to U pay close attention to so who is the media you're the media you're a

44:05

whole lot better than than watching any of the mainstream and people like you who have the courage and and the hard

44:12

work I know how hard it is to stay up to speed I know how hard you work and and you this isn't even your main job I I

44:19

know how much you care and people should respect and admire what you are doing

44:25

people can't get out of the way of what they don't see coming and there are very lot of a lot of very well read R well

44:31

read people out there who think they know what's coming but they're reading the wrong stuff and

44:37

they will get run over by this if if if we see for whatever reason a massive

44:43

dumping of dollars due to the the Petro dollar deal no longer being en forc the

44:48

byproduct of which is spiked interest rates it will be a religious experience for this country as all of the assets

44:53

are inversely correlated to a spike in rates but not just the assets the banks and the insurance companies are too so

44:59

it's real so prepare like something bad is coming and hope it never does if it does you'll be damn glad you prepared or

45:06

maybe it means there's a hell of an opportunity when this when the dust settles maybe we the American Spirit prevails and we are able to pull out

45:12

from this nose dive and a new Administration does you know Foster confidence and and and you know build

45:19

this country unite this country again and and that would be great this country has always I think done best with its

45:25

back to the wall and and that would be great but to prepare um and not prepare

45:31

I think is foolish so that's kind of my message Lena and I respect you a lot for what you do you're one of the few people

45:38

out there honestly who get it and that's why the minute I I saw your first video

45:43

I don't know a year ago I'm like wow she's one of the very few who's talking about this stuff and I give you a lot of

45:49

respect for the courage to do it and and how articulate you are in bringing what

45:54

is real news to to the public and I hope more and more people start uh following

46:00

you and it'll be my pleasure to help that out by sending that out to you know 80,000 people that we talk to and

46:07

encouraging people to to watch real news and uh and that would start with you know people like

46:13

yourself well Andy first of all thank you so much for your kind words and for your feedback I really appreciate that

46:19

and it it really does mean a lot because people don't realize how uh for me personally this is very much a onew

46:25

woman show so uh getting things to work the way I want them to and um editing

46:30

and uh finding the information that would I would like my viewers to know that certainly takes um a certain amount

46:37

of energy I know how much time it takes I know how much effort it takes and you bring up new stories almost every day so

46:44

I will vouch for you it's it's a constant I spend three four hours a day every day seven days a week I'm sure you

46:49

do too and it shows that's why you have three or 400,000 subscribers and that's why I watch every video you post it's

46:57

about trying to gather as much information as possible from people like you and others out there who are doing the same thing and then make your own

47:03

decision um trust your gut things don't feel right I think people understand that they just don't feel right and um

47:10

let's hope we're wrong but uh I would say this I would I would simply say this that our current Administration has done

47:17

more to harm this country than any external foe could have ever have done over the last few years and uh it's not

47:23

over yet and we have a few months left that I think will be exponentially more

47:28

volatile and as the Chinese curse says interesting and I hope I'm wrong I truly honest to God hope I'm wrong but I don't

47:34

think I am and you can see that for for for MBS to not go to the G7

47:40

meeting and to not reup that deal is a significant of anything that has ever happened in all of our lives but how

47:45

many people understand that yes it hasn't like bang collapsed but I assure

47:51

you that it is not a good omen when you see the dollar lose its hemony and in in

47:56

essence that what is what just happened and how fast it unravels to what degree

48:02

I guess we'll see but um I think it it it certainly the fuse has been lit when

48:07

does the fuse hit the firecracker don't know but I think it's closer than it's ever been in my life and I would really

48:14

like our viewers to to understand that none of this is a really um big shock

48:20

right there were signs and and red flags for several years now that uh if itively

48:27

said that this is something that might happen you really need to prepare for this and for our leadership this is

48:33

something that you really need to take into account and try to mitigate those risks um because West Asia has been very

48:40

very unstable and we've seen the UAE sius Bashar Al Assad became part of the

48:46

Arab League I believe uh last year again so they welcomed him back so um I think

48:52

those are the things that were the signs that you know MBS may not choose to go to a G7 Conference next time around that

48:59

things might not really work out in uh the favor of of uh the United States in

49:04

that region and and so none of this is a is a big shock it's it's been a long time coming and now finally it's

49:10

starting to uh come to light and more and more people are starting to realize what this means for them and for their

49:17

children and for um generations to come that are now um having to uh deal with

49:24

massive truly massive national debt that that will certainly impact their quality of life and what type of um uh comfort

49:32

and life they're going to be able to afford so with that being said um of

49:38

course gold and silver are the go-to safe haven assets and I know it's very

49:43

difficult to say what will happen in the next six months as you mentioned for for the reasons that you mentioned but what

49:50

is your prediction with respect to gold price now through the end of 2024 we

49:56

have the bricks Summit coming up we have uh elections coming up are there any other things important events that are

50:03

uh going to take place between now and the end of the year that would impact the price of uh precious metals well

50:10

those are the biggest of course I mean the flow of gold from west to east this transfer of wealth that that I've been

50:16

talking about for a long time now is huge and I think the underestimating of the significance of it is is a problem

50:23

we're seeing so much gold and silver flow Eastward just the other day uh three Fridays ago $500 million worth of

50:31

gold was delivered to Brinks Hong Kong which is a comx facility by the way and

50:37

and they're all in kilo bars which is ironically what trades at the Shanghai Gold Exchange it's as if they are uh

50:43

draining our exchanges having them sent over in exchange for physical to places like Brinks Hong Kong and then trucked

50:48

over to the Shanghai Gold Exchange I think that when you talk about how high gold and silver will get it will go

50:54

higher than um people think possible because it's as if it's playing by a new set of rules the the the price action

51:01

the resiliency um is unlike anything I've seen they hit it it comes right back up

51:07

um I think that the currency that buys these Commodities um is not as valuable as the

51:14

Commodities themselves this is zultan posar saying Breton Woods 3 Breton Woods one when we took over for the pound

51:20

sterling Breton Woods 2 when we became the Petro dollar and that may be over right now and brettonwoods 3 A system

51:26

that will be all about Commodities you look at the Chinese they bought the London Metals exchange recently that's not the bullion lbma but it's the lme

51:33

which is all the base Metals um copper zinc you know you name it I already read to you that they control the majority of

51:40

all the rare Earths you know Russia produces more wheat than the West does China struck deals on the Belt Road all

51:46

around the world in in you know under industrialized countries to help bring their Commodities their natural

51:53

resources to the fold so you are are witnessing system that is breaking away from opaque debt Promises by a broke

52:00

insolvent and viewed as a hypocritical Nation to to one of Commodities and transparency this is real and how high

52:07

does it go I don't know higher than anyone thinks possible would be my guess and I don't know if it happens between

52:13

now and the end of the year but you can see when you see the central banks which are the most not only the most

52:19

well-funded but but the most well-informed traders in the world bu at levels that we are seeing right now it

52:24

should tell you when you see India take a 100 metric tons back from the bank of England when you see Saudi Arabia and

52:30

Egypt who just joined bricks bring all their gold back from the New York fed when you see the bundas bank the bank of

52:36

Austria Hungary turkey Poland the Czech National Bank they did the same thing too bought brought all their gold back

52:42

from the New York fed in the Bank of England um when you see turkey be one of the largest buyers of gold in the world

52:48

and apply to Bricks these are all things that are happening and there's no coincidence in fact the the global gold

52:55

Supply right now is as with the central banks is basically as high as it was right before Nixon closed the gold

53:01

window it's as if these these people in the no are preparing for a gold standard gold has now just outpaced the Euro for

53:08

the first time ever in terms of Holdings and Central Bank holdings and you know

53:13

so it's number three dollars gold Euros what is gold it's the only other tier one asset so the significance of it is

53:20

huge in a system that lacks trust that wants to inspire trust it will have to be backed by some

53:26

and for the bis which is the most powerful Bank on the planet the central bank or Central Bank to reclassify gold

53:33

as the only other tier one asset in the world and to see the central banks buy it and repatriate it removing

53:39

counterparty risk the way that they are I don't know if it's by the end of the year or or later or sooner I would just

53:46

simply say in a world of no guarantees and probabilities the probability of gold outpacing people's expectations to

53:53

me is extraordinary it will go higher than anyone thinks possible and you take out the Central Bank

53:58

manipulation that forever has been orchestrated on the comx and on the lbma

54:04

where the lbma right now trades almost three billion ounces of silver per day that's that's that's three and a half

54:10

times Global Mine Supply where they're trading 200 million ounces of gold per day that's not normal and you know they

54:18

only have I don't know how many ounces of gold that they only have 300 million ounces of silver yet they're trading

54:24

almost three billion I'm not not sure how many ounces of gold the lbm has but the point of it is the rehypothecation

54:30

of all of these Metals by the bullion banks in the west have created an environment where the price has been muted and they didn't want the price to

54:37

rise because they wanted everyone happy in in in Western currencies and investing in Western treasuries and

54:43

western western um assets that made the Western Bankers wealthy well the game is

54:49

changing because now you have countries wealthy enough coordinated enough sophisticated enough to stand for

54:54

delivery and they're draining the exchange using these make Bel prices in years past no one stood for delivery it

55:01

was just a way to hedge exposure or to gamble now there're standing for delivery and standing for delivery means

55:07

these naked contracts this rehypothecation is enough to put companies Banks or hedge funds out of

55:13

business like that and so yeah it's it's different when I say gold and silver tra are playing by a new set of rules I mean

55:20

that um and I think you will see this come to a head at some point but how

55:25

high does it go by the end of the year I don't know and to make a guess would only be a guess but I will say higher

55:31

than people think possible over time and you buy it not for that reason you don't

55:36

buy it to get wealthy you buy it because it is wealth that has outlived everything the world's ever thrown at it

55:42

and now you know the more things change the more they stay the same here we are again the central Bankers who know the

55:48

Playbook buying and possessing repatriating from the bank of England I.E the lbma and the New York fed I.E

55:55

the comac we don't want you holding our medals we don't trust you anymore you've proven

56:00

untrustworthy we see the amount of Leverage the amount of rehypothecation we see the risk in holding your assets

56:06

are you holding our assets and it's time to break free into a new system that will be about transparency Commodities

56:13

and physical possession which removes any and all counterparty risk and that's what these Commodities offer is is an

56:21

escape from that type of of confiscation of assets and when you see the us who

56:26

just voted to to to take the 5 billion that we're holding and turn it into

56:31

Munitions and give it to the Ukraine and the 280 billion that the European Union is holding and take the interest from

56:37

those Securities and use it to give to the Ukraine for rebuilding it for for

56:42

all sorts of things including weapons that's a whole different thing and I think no one will ever trust us again

56:48

Lena I think you cross that line you break that trust you shatter that trust there will be consequences which brings

56:55

me back full full circle to title of my speech that I'm giving in bokeh here

57:00

next month at Rick rules conference and I wanted to call it as it too stupid to be stupid I I turned it a little bit

57:07

more political but you have to ask yourself with Jared Bernstein being the lead economic adviser a man who

57:12

advocates for losing the reserve status um with number two being L brainer a

57:18

modern monetary theorist who wants to see the banks collapse wants to see a central bank issued digital currency

57:23

could these things actually be possible is it is it possible that we let the country go to Hell by letting people in

57:30

and destabilizing it and creating disunity by by having people question the the Cornerstone of this country the

57:37

the judicial system the electoral system the immigration system the wokeness that we see could it be that we we told the

57:45

Saudis we're going green and and and then go on this this weaponization um sanction binge you look

57:54

around and you could see why the hell would these countries want to hold our treasuries when they not only with all of the stuff I just said they've

58:00

performed like crap over the last year and a half and we're choosing inflation over austerity and inflating currency an

58:05

unstable bond market that can be confiscated and a country that is no longer the beacon of light at least at

58:13

outward appearance that it once was and you have to ask yourself is this stuff just too stupid to actually not be

58:20

planned I don't know it it feels that way to some degree either that or the people who are supposed supposedly our

58:27

elected leaders are are um leading us down a very dark path where uh hopefully

58:33

we can pull up from it here over the next few months but God help us if not if this current Administration stays in

58:38

office again I think we're in big trouble and I think you need to prepare as if that's the

58:44

case Andy thank you so much this was a fascinating conversation as always um

58:49

how can our viewers contact you yeah and I hope you invite me back again because you know this is why I

58:55

don't talk about this stuff at parties or with friends unless they ask me because really it doesn't

59:01

portray happy exciting news but I would rather know what's coming and be able to

59:07

get out of the way of it and and not just survive maybe even Thrive than be run over by it Lena I hope I'm wrong and

59:14

you know what scares me more than anything is that this stuff that I've been talking about in I don't know 3,000

59:20

videos since 2019 that are still out there I've been right and I don't take

59:26

joy in that I mean it scares me actually the stuff that I've talked about when everyone thought I was crazy in 2019

59:33

saying the Saud would dump the Petro dollar and the bricks would come big and strong and all of these things that have

59:39

happened I'm frightened by it so what do I do I I I try to distance myself from

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traditional assets I try to remove counterparty risk uh if you want to buy gold and silver please put in the

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subject line Lena sent me we will give you white glove service we will send you a price list that we don't publish that

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will be as good or better than anywhere in in the country uh we will answer any questions that you heard on this or

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previous shows or anything that you have questions about IRAs you name it um we'd

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love to earn your business that's what I do I I look at gold and silver as escape from The Matrix I try and be completely

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objective and and the only other place that I have felt comfortable to put my own money over the last six months to a

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year has been really really really short-term us treasuries 6 months in duration or less and I don't know where

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else to put it yes I own a precious metals company but I believe enough in it and what it represents in terms of

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removal of counterparty risk and an asset base or asset class that is being

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voraciously accumulated by the central banks who know the Playbook they're not just the wealthiest or the most

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well-informed so please take it for what it's worth yes I think people should buy precious metals whether it be for me or

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anyone else and I think that people should do the best they can to get out of debt and prepare and um that's what I

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would do and if you have other assets you don't want to put it all into Metals go to treasurydirect.gov that goes right

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to the US uh treasury you you disintermediate the risk of the banking

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sector and you can buy I don't know six month 90day

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treasuries that um will I think give you the liquidity you want and and take a

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lot of the risk in the banking sector out of the equation and if the government fails we're all in trouble so

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that's what I would do and I would love to talk with your listeners if they have questions for me again info@ miles

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franklin.com direct them to me I will try and get to as many as I can and um I

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really love coming on your show Lena I hope you'll have me back because I think the next few months will be the craziest

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few months of my career and I would love to ride shotgun with you a little bit more and and you know talk about it as

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things start to unfold thanks Andy I look forward to having you back thanks Lena

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