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let's get started with this attack on civilians in
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Sebastopol which was unbelievable they're attacking civilians that who
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have nothing to do with this conflict in Ukraine they are just living their lives
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in Crimea and when you look at this attack in your opinion what they're seeking for
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what was the strategy what was the tactic behind this type of attacks that the Ukrainian government together with
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the United States and their allies they're doing right now well first of all Nema uh there's no
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strategy and no tactic this is a war of Terror put it
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straightforward and it was decided by the people who are running this war
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which are of course in Washington and in Brussels and KV is basically uh the lap
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dogs implementing the orders and this was a typical case
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Sunday here in Russia was a Christian Orthodox holiday very very important
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it's a day where people go out to their families uh they celebrate in parks in
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beaches in Cas in sevastopol to give an idea for all of you how crazy it this is I was in Kazan
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in the middle in tatarstan of course capital of tatarstan in the middle of a
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Tatar folk uh holiday which happens to coincide with the Christian Orthodox
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holiday which is another facet of how Russia is really a multipolar nation a
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civilization State you have a Tatar holiday and a Christian Orthodox holiday
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and they mingle they interact uh there read a lot of Christian Orthodox uh uh Russians in
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this big big party in the outskirts of Kazan which was basically a Tatar Ritual
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from centuries ago you know same thing with their families kids uh everybody having a ball
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with Tatar food and experimenting uh uh you know trying manufacture products
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from all sorts of provinces inside Taran and later on that's where we learn
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that something awful had happened in Crimea and also a terror attack in
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dagistan and these two attacks very important on the same day uh on a holiday in Russia they were
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interwined one is a missile attack against civilians essentially and the
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other one was the reactivation of a Ultra extremist Islamic cell in dagistan
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so let's start with sebasto Paul answering a question the ukrainians they launch Five
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the ukrainians know the NATO operators or Mo most probably the American
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operators launched five attack Ms costing $1 million each
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simultaneously This is complicated because even if you have very good air defenses which is the case of
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sevastopol they did not they intercepted four of them but not the fifth the fifth
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went through and he was shot when he was in midair so what happened was the
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debris of the missile fell on the beach and that caused the deaths of you know
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unfortunately children and wounding at least 150
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people so this was deliberate first of all because there are no military Targets in
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that area so we are the day before what happened in Sebastopol and dagistan I
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was in Kazan as part of the bricks the first bricks Forum of cities and
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municipalities and Friday was the big day uh where there were all the um um
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the meetings regarding the beginning of this new Association which is a fantastic Association we can talk about
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this later and the next day they took us on a cruise in the vulga
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toak which is a fantastic Island surrounded by Three Rivers which is very
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important in the history of Russia because it's where uh Ian for also known as Ian the terrible in the west
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organized the defeat of the descendants of the golden horde of the Mongols of the golden horde in
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1552 so on their way I shared the table in the cruiser fantastic cruiser with
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the permanent representative of the Republic of Crimea to President Putin so this means
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this is a top crimeia official fantastic Diplomat with large experience
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especially in Africa he's been all over uh he's from Crimea he was born in
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Crimea and now he's the top representative of Crimea in facing the
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president you know and he told me absolutely Priceless stuff about what's
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going on nowadays including the fact that everything that it's important
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concerning the Black Sea Fleet in sevastopol has been transferred to nois
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it's in nois it's not in sevastopol anymore so there are no military targets
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even from the Black Sea Fleet in sebast so this was a deliberate attack on
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civilians uh there is an airport near what that that would have been maybe the
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theoretical Target of this missile attack but nobody's using this airport
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so it was an attack on civilians So This is war on terror on civilians that is legitimized by the
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Americans the missiles are operated by the Americans everything
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the uh reconnaissance the intelligence the surveillance and the reconnaissance
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ISR ISR as we call it was from a global hawk that was
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loitering in the Black Sea before the M It This Global Hawk was transmitting the
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coordinates for the people who were launching the missiles so obviously uh
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uh it's no wonder that the next day everybody from s La the foreign minister
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and nebenzia the Russian represent pres of the UN they were saying this was an American attack the Americans are
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complicit they organized everything and everybody knows that the ukrainians cannot even you know find the toilet
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paper in the room the Americans do everything including pressing the button so this was deliberate so this
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was one part of the terror strategy against civilians and if we look uh at uh what people from
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military Ukrainian military in intelligence were saying before and what
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direct advisors to zinski like podolak for instance were saying they were saying that there are no uh there are no
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civilians in Crimea everybody is an occupier there are no beaches for families so everything is a target so
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this is a war of Terror by Kiev and fully instrumentalized and supported by
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the Americans parallel to that in sebasto what happened in dagistan is that CIA
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MI6 which have loads of cells all over the post
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Soviet space and inside the Russian Federation as as well they reactivated
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uh Ultra extremist salafi Jihadi wahhabi cell in
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dagistan and these people went on a rampage they they killed at least 20
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people including slitting the throat of a Christian or
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Russian Christian Orthodox priest which is as all of you uh
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remember the classic Isis model operandi of years ago in especially in
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Syria and Iraq and this had to be on the same day in parallel this means this was
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a concerted operation with full backup of n American NATO operators on one side
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and American British Intelligence on the other side so obviously people in Moscow
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were absolutely Furious since uh Sunday night I came back to Moscow from cazan
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on Sunday night and from Sunday night until today while we're talking it's the
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topic everywhere everywhere in town the number one topic is okay so the this this is a
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definitive Red Line what are they going to they're going to do about it but that's the problem because the Russians
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do not respond to provocations they do but it's later and
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as Putin already said many times on the record it can be symmetrical or it can be asymmetrical so we don't know how
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they're going to respond yet but it this is becoming very very very serious because
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everybody knows here especially here that this summer is going to be
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literally very very hot and there will be other attacks against civilians in
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the across the Russia Federation so the big question Nema and all of you when
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will the bear actually lose the bear patience and Counterattack like bears do now and then
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there's no Escape when it comes to this attack and
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we we we've learned that right after that the Russian government and pun
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Administration they were talking about that they're going to respond to this attack as you mentioned we don't know
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what they're going to do but they have a lot of options at their disposal we know
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that they have a lot a lot they're not what we know what we've learned so far
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from their attitude in Ukraine they're not interested in killing civilians
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they're just thinking strategically they're they're trying to find to to get to that point
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that would what would be an appropriate response to this type of attack but well
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sorry nma sorry to interrupt go ahead please no go ahead that was the question
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well the number one possibility which is um Everybody agrees with that is to
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impose a nfly Zone on the Black Sea it doesn't matter that going to be a
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lot of screaming and shouting from Washington and Brussels but the Russians don't care the thing is how they going
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to implement that because Putin has a legal mind and he's very careful and very
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measured in every major decision especially regarding the war the proxy
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war one of the possibilities is that Russia brings documentation to the UN
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Security Council proving irrefutably that the Americans were behind this attack in
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sasto and then obviously as we all know the UN Security Council is not going to
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say anything about it because it'll be V vetoed by the us it's going to be the usual blah blah blah and nothing happens
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but it will be on the record and the Russians are going to say look we
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brought this to you it's on the record we you didn't do anything about it you didn't cond down or we are going to
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counter punch the way we want it and then comes the second part of the
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strategy which is to install uh impose a nfly Zone over the Black Sea which means
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every Reaper or Global Hawk by the Americans that
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transgresses this sector of the Black Sea uh close to
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Southern Ukraine and Crimea will be shut down that's it with no questions asked
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so this is probably I would say this is the the road map for Russia from now on
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it won't be something um irreflective of impulsive of course the bombing of uh
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strategic uh military locations in Ukraine especially in od
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because this missiles probably came from the region around Odessa or from Odessa itself this will continue uh they bombed
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an installation uh early this week uh but this is another part of the story uh this the particular counter
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punch for this and for subsequent possible attacks against
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civilians is how Russia is going to impose its will on the Black Sea which
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is something that military analysts here have been clamoring
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for months in fact and many of some of them even over a year look this this
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part of the vacine is ours so no fly zone we control and in fact because they
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are international waters Russia is playing by the rules but you cannot play
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by the rules when you are facing a bunch of lunatics and Terror
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enable uh lunatics and Terror enabling lunatics as well which is the case of um
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Washington so this thing is can be out of control soon in fact because there's
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this is the plan B Nema the plan B is the war of Terror they are absolutely
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desperate at what's happening in the battlefield in Nova Rosia uh sometimes in in in some of these um uh artillery
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barges that the Russians launch you you kill 2,000 uh Ukrainian soldiers just
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like that you know like it stamping your fingers sometimes 3,000 whole battalions
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it's it's getting totally out of control which is always the classic Russian
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strategy they are not in a rush the objective number one remains
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total demilitarization of Ukraine of course a lot of people will get killed
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this is already the fource Ukrainian Army soon is going to be the fifth we don't know
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where the components of this fifth new Ukrainian Army will come from people you
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know literally plugged out of bus stations or their own homes but but this
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is the Russian strategy doesn't change but we can sense even in the way Neza at
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the UN and lavro are speaking now they are Beyond exasperated and they are very
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very angry and beware you don't see gentlemen diplomats like this being
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angry like this and without consequences yeah the other thing would
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be as you mentioned it seems that they were attacking sasto From
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adessa Here Comes again this question what would be the future of adessa for
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Russia are they going to let it in the hand of ukrainians or are they going to let them to attack each and every time
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because they can send all of the those weapons to adasa and they say these are ukrainians who are attacking we are not
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doing anything here well this is the one trillion doll question Nema seriously it was from the
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beginning when do we get to adessa uh in the first few weeks of the Smo is all
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the way to adessa then uh the people who organized the special military operations saw that this was a very long
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shot then there was the Ukrainian counter offensive now we are in a let's
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say the ultra slow motion Russian offensive which is basically captur
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capturing one Village a week we can go on like this for decades you know it's very very slow but it's not about
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conquering territory it's not about it it's about demilitarization always and Odessa is a
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completely different story you cannot storm Odessa with the numbers that the Russians have at the moment you would
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need at least 300,000 soldiers and loads
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of equipment that the Russians are saving for whatever eventuality comes up
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so we can say that we we we can really figure out the
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way they are studying the chessboard they prefer to bet on keeping
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their own strategy the way it is advancing little by little uh thiss satisfaction inside Ukraine uh the front
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collapsing little by little and even later on when the Verna Rada will become
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also illegal and this will be August there could be
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referendums in many uh Ukrainian cities and they can vote easily to
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be reabsorbed by Russia and this would be the case of Odessa for instance so
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there is a possibility very uh feasible possibility of Odessa being conquered
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without one single bullet it's there it's quite possible after August for the
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moment we already have a presidency that is completely unconstitutional and
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illegal and the Americans of course they are they're oblivious to that because
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they're focused completely on the war of Terror and on the elections in
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November and the Europeans are just vessels you know they do what the Americans tell them to do including uh
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macron's idea to to send in fact the French mercenaries to basically to Essa
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the the original French plan was to send these mercenaries and this 2,000 French
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troops wow they're going to conquer the world with 2,000 French troops to Odessa
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so uh the Russians are thinking strategically long term and that's the
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difference the Americans and NATO they are desperate on what they're going to do this week and next week and the
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Russians are thinking about the rest of the year in 2025 already they are also prepared for
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the fact that this could be a very long War which is what the Americans
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essentially want and this war will be conducted and paid essentially by the
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Europeans the Europeans they still have not figured out that they are the Fall Guy in this whole story not only they
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have to fight but they have to pay for the whole thing afterwards because the Americans will be thinking about other
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fish to fry and the big fish to fry in the minds of the of the Republicans if
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they get to power is China it's not Russia so this thing can move in all
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sorts of ways uh in a very incandescent manner during
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the summer but then there may be a sort of lull before the American elections
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and depending on the result of the American elections the whole scene could turn sideways let's put it this way it
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won't end but it could turn sideways assuming there will be some sort of a
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let's say Trump plan which has already leaked but what leaked is essentially a
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trap laid out by Trump advisors for Russia the Russians have already
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examined what was proposed to Trump and they know this is total but
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during the little interum that Trump will have as a margin of
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manber he wins the elections there is this period before he enters office
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where the Deep state are going to pounce on him and during this interon he could
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try to negotiate something nobody knows what in fact not even Trump knows what
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he will negotiate because I'm we're not sure that he understand what's in play
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you know you you talk
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about France and what macron is doing right now he said that he's trying to
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negotiate he's trying to talk with Putin but there is no response on the Russian
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part the question this of our evening right
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n the question is why would Russia talk with macron what would come out of these
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talks is macron still important for Russia these These are huge these are
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Big questions after these new elections in the European Union how does Russia see Europe and the current face of
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Europe well it's absolutely irrelevant first of all if macron calls they won't
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pick up the phone he's irrelevant they they actually they they see they examine
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the internal the domestic uh political situation in France very carefully here they know exactly what's going on they
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know that the end of maconis politically is right right right around the corner
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literally it's going to happen within the next two weeks three weeks Max so there's Absol absolutely nothing
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that macron can propose to Russia and R the Russians are not interested in discussing with
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anybody from Europe this this is something that we heard from diplomats here these past few days in fact they
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keep repeating there's absolutely nothing to discuss with the Europeans
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and look they until the Smo there were discussions there were at least some you
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know diplomatic encounters and these diplomats very able diplomats
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Minister of Foreign Relations here they are used for decades to transactionally and
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diplomatically and even friendly exchanges with r with Europe and they
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don't exist anymore and now it's going to get even worse because this is something that uh last
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week I was advancing in one of my podcasts that there will be a secret dinner in
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Brussels on Monday where they would renew from their Ling for a second
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mandate that's exactly what happened it happened on Monday night in Brussels on
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Tuesday it was announced that the heads of um government of uh the
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EU not Victor Orban by the way they had
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approved Von for V liion 2.0 at the European commission so it's going to is
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going to be as wor as bad as it was before and in fact worse because the EU
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foreign policy Chief is going to be that batshit crazy Estonian
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kalas so get ready if you thought that Garden jungle borell stupid as he is was
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bad wait for callus which is a mega russophobe and side by side with vonder
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Lon oh my god get ready you know it's it's worse than the harpies in
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traditional Greek mythology so uh the Russians know all this you know
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from upside down all around and said okay it's going to get even worse in terms of dealing with the Europeans but
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they don't matter anyway because the ones who really matter are NATO and the ones at NATO also don't matter because
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they respond to the Americans so the only proposal possibility of sitting
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down on the same table is if the Americans decide to sit on the table but
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once again very important um agreeing with the propositions made by Putin last week in
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detail Putin made a proposal to end the war not to freeze the war and he left it
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in a very very explicit and very very clear he knows of course that uh the
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Americans will tell the Europeans no and the Americans will also refuse it they did not refuse it explicitly Stenberg
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for NATO already said no but this is the same thing as the Americans telling Stenberg hey said no say no good boy
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good dog that's exactly what happened so the good dog said no this means the owner of the dog is saying no so go it
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goes back to to the to to the same to the same place where we are now Nema the Russians will be awaiting for
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the next War Of Terror move by the Americans remote controlling the ukra
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the the ukrainians they'll see how far this will go they will be keep Hunning
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their uh asymmetric response and that's the beauty of it
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because nobody knows what will be when it will be it's typical sunu Art of War
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uh Russ Russian strategy because they think strategically and of course this next
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three months that are going to be very very very very hot but the impossibility
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of a dialogue at least during this year until the end of this year is absolutely
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clear for the Russians for for the security Council here is totally clear
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and once again uh adding to the answer to to your question it's absolutely
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pointless to even pick up the phone if any European macron or
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or whatever whoever Falls because they have nothing
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tangible to propose we know that in the mainstream
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media in the United States they're trying to draw a line between she and P
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in for the case of North Korea they're saying that she is not happy with P
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going to North Korea in my opinion they both knew what's going to happen in
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North Korea they had they talk about these things even during that visit of
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pun to China do you think that these two countries that are so
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their partnership is so crucial it's so important for the future of brecks
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would make some sort of disagreement between them on North Korea or they just
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talking about everything that is going on right now Nemo this is so stupid
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stupid that I don't even know where to start okay I I'll I'll try the the short
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version for all of us because well this is part of my job I've been following the Russia China strategic partnership
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for years practically on a daily basis you know everything that they discuss
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the plans how they organize the meetings uh how it starts with the CN Putin and
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then goes down to the ministry of uh foreign affairs and to other officials
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Etc the Russia China strategic partnership is Ironclad which is something that will never be understood
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in Washington and in Brussels number one number two the the puting strip to uh
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dprk was extra strategic because it was
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the first time that the Russians are actually implementing a concept that
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they devel veloped and was presented to the Americans in December 2021
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indivisibility of security which is to launch the basis for a
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panasian security arrange so a strategic partnership
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between Russia and China that already exists augmented by strategic partnership with the dprk
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plus the the treaty that Russia and Iran are about to sign is going to be in the
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next few weeks all the paperwork is ready and it's also a strategic
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partnership this is the basis of a panasian uh strategic re strategic
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realignment in fact concerning all the major uh Eurasian actors it will be
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discussed next months in aana at Summit of the Shanghai Corporation organization
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where all these are members except North Korea or North Korea can send a delegation as observers uh turkey by the
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way is an observer Mongolia is an observer Afghanistan is an observer but it's basically Russia China India
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Pakistan Iran and Central Asian stands and everybody agrees that we need a
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framework a security framework for all of us major actors in why do you think
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turkey is desperate to get inside the cooperation organization it's because
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they don't get in they will be completely left out and turkey will be at the mercy of the Americans and NATO
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and erdogan is clever enough to see that his he has his back against the wall so
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turkey will be at Min next month as an observer but they want you know active
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participation and they look can I enter your club and then the others are going to say can we trust this
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guy so so this is the big story in Aon and next months you know well so the
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dprk bringing the dprk into the equation is brilliant
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because uh puting introduced an element that completely destabilized the Americans in their strategy for
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Northeast Asia uh and this thing this didn't start
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with this visit Nema and all of you listening you know when this started to get formulated you won't believe it at
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the St Petersburg form in 2018 six years ago when there was an
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enormous dprk delegation they went there to discuss business of course and to
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discuss strategic partnership with the Russians so this took a long time
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because of covid of course two years or nothing happens Etc they have been honing their uh organ their partnership
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and how they are going to organize themselves militarily and trade terms as well because this is Russia opening the
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doors to North Korea to export via uh the Far East in Russia and Siberia and
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they can export to the whole of Eur Asia if they want the North Koreans and they have some pretty good things to export
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it it's a manufacturing Powerhouse and a scientific Powerhouse North Korea and a
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n Powerhouse they have thousands of super it experts in North Korea these
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people come on these people make nuclear weapons and Hypersonic missiles this is very very serious stuff
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very few nations in the world are capable of doing that the North Koreans can do it so all that destabilized the
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West completely so what do we have from these um absolutely
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pathetic media outlets in the west oh uh this produced a a spinner in the works
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shining is going to be now he has a new friend he's a Bandon so this does not
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even qualify as a bad joke you know but this is what they're capable of Nema bad
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PR bad journalism and trying to fool their readers there's nothing else you know
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because they're incapable once again of thinking strategically and because this strategy in across Asia is so complex in
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so many levels even if you follow it on a day-to-day basis just to keep up with
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what everybody is doing and everybody's talking to each other is it's a mindboggling work and the Russians of
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course they have this particular uh story they started six years ago so now
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we have the fruits of this reapproximation and guess who was the
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number one actor facilitating a good dialogue between siin ping and King
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jonun Vladimir Putin do they know this in Washington no they don't so obviously
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they cannot analyze anything because they don't have the background they don't know what's going on on a daily or
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weekly basis they don't see how Eurasia is reconfiguring the whole system of
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international relations for that matter and obviously even if they see even if they suspect this is what's doing
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uh rejection denial they enter in total denial because the way they organize the
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the world since 1945 is collapsing in front of their very
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eyes we know one of the main players of breaks is India recently we read that
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Indian Prime Minister Modi is going to visit Moscow how do you see the role of
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India right now we haven't seen so far that they're one they want to play a big
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role they're trying to convince both parties United States G7 on one side and
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together they're part of brecks but it seems to me that they're trying to play Both Sides how do you see the role
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of India right now how important are they in this whole game
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uh they cannot play Both Sides first of all and that's their problem because
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Modi still has not made up his mind okay he can have good relations
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with some of the G7 members he's trying very hard with money in Italy for
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instance but he cannot have close relations with the G7 and close
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relations with bricks at the same time so this visit will be very very very
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very peculiar in a sense that may clarify at least a little bit where
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India is going they have an excellent relationship with Russia uh the problem
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is they have a bad relationship with China and Russia is the middleman between both so we can expect Putin to
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instill some sense into Modi in terms of come on guys grow up solve your problems
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with China you are an important member of bricks if you don't you won't be an important member of bricks anymore so
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it's your choice and you know where the future is the future is not the us or NATO the future is here bricks and we
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are building it and we want to build it with you for instance we are building
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the international north south Transportation Corridor with main actors Russia Iran India we are investing in
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Iran to make it easier for the corridor to start working seamlessly from St Petersburg and Moscow
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across Russia to asan then across the caspan to um uh Iranian ports in the
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caspan and then all the way to Southern Iran and then all the way to Mumbai So
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you you're going to profit from it you can export more we can export more to
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you and you can export more not only to us but to Iran and to Central Asia
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because from Iran the that famous road that you helped build to the Afghan border you
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can start exporting to Afghanistan and to Central Asia as well so it's your interest to be an active member not only
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of the this Transportation Corridor but of our bigger bricks policy as a whole
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so uh it's it's we everybody is very very everybody from everywhere is very
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curious to uh what if mod will understand
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how complex the game is and he has now to make his move and this is a only a
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few months before the brick Summit in Kazan in October where Modi has to come as one of the main
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protagonists and not as a
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sideshow the other thing would be it seems that European countries together with
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the United States is going to send the first trunch of Frozen Russian assets
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to to the pocket of the military industrial complex and then you mean you mean follow the stolen
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money right exactly unbelievable and it seems that Hungary
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is not happy with this situation because it's the European Union decided to bypass
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Hungary and and they they didn't just care about their opinion and even the foreign minister of Hungary
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he said that this is a Shameless violation of red lines and how do you see the situation
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right now within the European Union these country like Hungary is not happy
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at all with the situation no it's collapsing from the inside Nemo um the presidency of the EU is
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going to be hungar this is going to be quite something because we're going to have
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Victor Orban clashing directly with the toxic Medusa vonder lion this is going
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to be something to watch he already said that he's totally against VL and he
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didn't vote for VL for the 2.0 mandate you know so this is going to be some
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it's it's crumbling from the inside and this is something I was discussing today with the top Russian analyst today
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before I came to talk to you uh the NATO and the are collapsing on Parallel
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tracks and more or less at the same speed so the collapse of the EU and NATO
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practically simultaneously it's a done deal we still don't know when it's going to happen it
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could be in a matter of a few years or it could be in a matter of a few months anything anything in between is possible
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because there are already enormous cracks inside um uh Victor Orban already
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said that uh his emphasis is to find a solution for
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Ukraine so and this goes against everything that comes out of Brussels
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the the rules that Brussels imposes on uh the capitals of of the the member
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states of the EU member states you know so there's this is already a mega Clash at the top at which which is a good
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thing in fact and especially voters and and average European citizens
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from Western Europe to Eastern Europe will accompany this in a real time and
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they will understand what's at stake and they will compare this U russophobic
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Obsession and this um war mongering with the decline of their own living
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standards wherever they live in Europe many of them are already okay there are
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zillions of brainwashed citizens all across Europe but at least at least I would say that a significant
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minority approaching closely approaching a majority already understands what's
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going on so this will be the beginning of the end when you have a majority of
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Europeans from Portugal Poland doesn't count Poland's a bunch of Rabbid dogs but from Portugal
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to okay from Portugal to Germany including southern Europe and some of
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the Scandinavians when they notice that uh what's happening to them in their
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personal lives basically is an extension of this
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absolutely demented suicidal policy conducted by Brussels oh then then we're
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GNA have something to watch you know then the show will really start and we
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are approaching uh that date you know sooner than many think
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we know that we going to have brick Summit in October and well I'll be there
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yeah you you you're going to be there you you've been there in Kazan recently as you as you said and why Kazan why
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what's the importance of Kazan in your opinion super important I'm glad that
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you asked Nema because this is the this is the column that came out this Tuesday
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on um Sputnik International in English I spent the three days in Kazan
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outstanding in um uh Friday Saturday Sunday Sunday was the day of the attack
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on sevastopol and the terror attack in dagistan and the the objective was the
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first Forum of the bricks plus cities and
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municipalities organization fascinating idea that came
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from the mayor of Kaza a few years ago he he went to Putin he had the idea
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Putin said fantastic go ahead it's in your hands you do everything and they did the whole thing was organized by uh
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City Hall in Kazan absolutely impeccable
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extremely smart and well prepared staff they invited over 100 Mayors sub Mayors
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U Municipal representatives from all over from Africa from South America from
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Central Asia from West Asia uh and to start the idea of this organization
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which is basically cities talking to cities you know intermunicipal
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horiz in his own in his own words horizontal inter municipality I I I love
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the concept it's it's a wonderful concept so it's uh in a siing ping way
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uh people to people's exchange which the Chinese always repeat it's one of the key concepts of
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the belt and Road in China but apply to cities and it was fascinating to see in
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front of you I'll give you a a short list of what kind of people were there
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the mayor of Ankara most important city is seat of power apart from esto city of
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power in Turkey mayors of the three big cities in
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the mayor of mashad the mayor of isah and the vice mayor of tan a very young
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guy still in his 30s he has an enormous political future ahead of you uh Mayors
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from small Brazilian cities very very interesting from H Grand
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D from s Paulo and from a small town in mat grow so close to the Amazon
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rainforest fascinating to talk to them wonderful people very well informed and
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they were when they saw Kazan when they saw a modern Russian city they were like
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they couldn't believe it they couldn't which is something very important because they are bringing all this information back to
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Brazil essential we had for for instance uh the Secretary of intermunicipal
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relations for the whole of Asia a wonderful woman from Indonesia we had Representatives some
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practically half of Central Asia over there as well one and for instance
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they're responsible for uh international relations of the city of Harbin in China
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which is a Powerhouse Harbin is the Chinese City connecting with the
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development of the Far East of Russia and Siberia see it could not be more
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strategic than that and they sent their top Foreign Relations Specialist to to
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the me so so the the first meeting and then the second meeting where they were discussing how to proceed further they
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were absolutely Priceless because these people had their own uh talk and then
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they decided essentially to uh okay we're going to take care of the paperwork later is not so important but
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we should already decide who's going to be the president of the organization and by consensus it's the mayor of Kazan
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who's the guy who had the original idea and the next uh
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annual meeting of the organization is going to be in Brazil next year 2025 so
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this was a wonderful decision for Brazil which can learn a
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lot Mayors and sub mayors of small mediumsized and even big cities in
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Brazil they can learn a lot by talking to their Partners in West Asia in
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Central Asia in Africa in other parts of South America very interesting Nema
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there were two guys from Argentina the the mayor of Kazan he
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invited even if that thing melay the
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chainsaw idiot declined to enter bricks doesn't matter mayor of Kazan invited
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two dissidents two Mayors from two Argentinian towns uh and they were there
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it was wonderful because everybody wanted to talk to them about the new Argentinian government and of course and
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they said look no no no no no we will continue the dialogue with bricks plus cities by ourselves and we're going to
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bring other Argentinian cities as well so this was great in terms of uniting
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cities from all over the global majority fantastic was a fantastic
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experience yeah let's finish with Julian Assange and what has happened to him and
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right now we we've learn that he's free after more than a decade not yet not yet
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yeah he's gonna yeah as we speak as we speak we're still waiting because he has
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to plead guilty exactly this is this is very tricky this
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is something that was being discussed for weeks between Julian's lawyers and
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uh the US Department of Justice they were trying to find a face saving way
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for the Americans in fact not for juliia and obviously uh the Americans were
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desperate because it the order came from above okay let's end this thing because
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uh can you imagine the Optics of having an Australian citizens tortured in a
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Maximum Security Prison in the United States of America in an electoral
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year so they had to find a solution so this was reason number one and reason
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number two the kadav in the White House SS he can get a few extra votes by doing
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this so these are the two main reasons this proves once again that there is no
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Department of Justice in the US there is a department of usual Injustice that
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works according to the rules-based international order that they can change at a snap of our
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fingers very very important what Julian is going to plead in the
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Northern Mariana Islands which is an absolutely crazy thing because it's a it's a territory
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Incorporated to the US so there is a court an American Courthouse over there
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American territory there are going to be FBI agents over there who are going to excort Julian out of the island of sapan
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as well but what he's going to plead and what he's going probably to sign this
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could have been done five years a ago this exact same thing and he would
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not have practically destroyed crucified psychologically tortured physically
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tortured at that absolutely disgusting B Marsh prison in in
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England but you know they had to you know okay let's uh um broadcast our
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lesson to Independent journalists all over the world this is what's going to happen to you
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so apparently they think that five years was enough uh all the
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Merit on the planet and on the galaxies to Julian that he didn't break down can
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you can you imagine the we cannot imagine the kind of psychological
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torture and the fact that his health absolutely collapsed he could have died in prison because his house collapsed
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for five years under those conditions and he did not break he did not let them
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break him so this this is the meaning of historic resistance this this is the
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message to all of us even the most powerful system in the history of humanity of the Galaxy of whatever Star
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Wars or whatever you want to call it they did not break him and in the end he's out of course there there may be a
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lot of conditionalities linked to this
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um deal maybe he could be under surveillance in uh Australia maybe they
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won't let him travel maybe he cannot say some things otherwise people are are
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going to knock at his door again we don't know we still don't know but the fact that at
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least he he's contemplating the possibility of being after Wednesday on
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Thursday he will be a free man in his homeland in
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Australia in itself is something absolutely stratospheric in terms of
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something auspicious finally happen in a year that is very very inauspicious like
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this one but uh there is an element that even if a lot of people are arguing that
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this does not set a precedence but you can never tell with the Americas because
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there are no rules they make and they demake
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the rules the way they want it so the fact that he has to plead guilty to one
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of the accounts which is using classified obtaining and using classified information this is very
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serious for all of us independent journalists and analysts because the
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Americans can always use it as a precedent to go after any one of us
53:53
anytime they want even if legally this does not set a precedent we know we know
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that they break the rules all the time the Russians are the first ones to know so we still don't know how this is going
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to to proceed but at least the the actual image of Julian on a
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plane especially the images of Julian on a plane going to before he arrived
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landed in Bangkok and then take another plane to go to Marianas the the the images are going to stay for the whole
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planet and the whole Global majority understand what that means you know yeah very very powerful and very emotional
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for all of us who have been following this story for what 14 years
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