Video Infoblog: Professor Roy Casagranda on Palestine occupation
it was the British that um made Israel for the Jews from Europe right technically no what happened was the Palestine became a British mandate after World War I mandate in other words conquered territory mandate is the euphemism for we conquered this um what the league of AR the I'm sorry the the League of Nations which was the you know the precursor to the UN sanctioned what Britain had done what the what happened was at the end of World War II the UN voted and Britain abstained Britain did not vote for they they could have vetoed it they had veto power so they could have just said no but they they abstained which then meant that they they didn't exercise their veto even though they didn't exercise a yes and what the UN did was they voted to then split Palestine into an Israel and a Palestine and they could do that because it was technically British like it belong to Britain Britain did not enforce the split Britain Britain protested and said we are against this we think this is a big mistake what what ended up happening was the British then decided because they disliked it so much that they were going to try and prevent Israel and Palestine from forming the problem was is they they put their emphasis on preventing Palestine from forming so Israel ended up becoming coming into existence and Palestine ended up be just disappearing I mean in a way except for the fact that there are two times as many Palestinians as Israelis and this is a long festering oozing wound that the world itself s inflicted on itself because it decided that it wanted to create a state that served only one religion at the expense of the people who are already living there I don't understand how they were allowed to make a nation like just split a nation that was already occupied and put people there what do you mean that live yeah there were Native American here like yeah that was the old days Oh you mean how could you do it 1948 and the aftermath of World War II when you would think we would have learned a lesson about doing stuff like that or at least people would object you know uh there was there were objections um the Arab world for example objected um there were there were even some European voices that weren't happy about it like Great Britain um having said that the United States in the Soviet Union were and France were very much in favor of it and because they were very much in favor it was hard for anybody to stop it in 1948 nobody was going to say no to the United States and the Soviet Union it just couldn't happen it was beyond people's comprehension because you never hear about a being a big deal like when people Pro protested Vietnam here you never hear like people protesting the creation of Israel there wasn't a a mass protest movement in in the first world for the creation of Israel um and and it was because people had Sympathy For What had happened to the Jews and some people were thinking okay maybe if they get their own state they'll be able to protect themselves I I I I I mean that's really flawed logic right because if anything what they've done is they've just sort of located themselves in one place and then put themselves in this really horrible precarious situation that could potentially put them at more risk not less risk there were already people there like they could have put him in an island or something where there was no people well yeah I mean like I when I get in conversation with Zionist I have a Zionist friend who keeps saying well the Arabs could well how much land were the Arabs giving why can't the Arabs be generous my immediate response is why wasn't the United States generous why not New York and Connecticut or something you know or New Mexico and Arizona which were actually asked for the Zionist movement at one point asked the United States if it would be willing to give up Arizona and New Mexico and create a Jewish State and the United States said no but but we're willing to let you do it in Palestine so like we're willing to be generous with other people's stuff but not our own um this it makes me think of this study and and I I don't know if I'm right about this but so let people are asked and I really to do this right I should ask you but I'm not going to um the people are asked to to solve this moral dilemma so there's a railroad track with people on it working there are five people working on it and they can't hear anything cuz they're making so much noise and they can't see anything because they're facing the wrong way but coming down the track headed straight towards them is a train and it will kill those five people when it hit hits them cuz it's going so fast H having said that you happen to be right next to a train track lever and you can change what track the train goes on and there's a the other track has one person on it so if you pull that lever the train goes over and kills one guy do you pull the lever so answer it no yes there's one person saying no and I see a bunch of people nodding their heads any no other NOS uh are you an L yeah maybe like because it would be selfish to do it what it would be selfish um no actually selfishly I would because because if you pull a lever you're responsible for the death if you don't of the one person right if you don't pull the lever okay Destiny isn't just the two of you but does anybody else a know or is I'm on the fence you're on the fence you say yes yes yes yes yes says by the way I'm a lever okay so now most people say yes the vast majority of people say yes I'm glad though that you had that conversation because it was really good now we're going to change the scenario slightly same thing five people can't hear can't see train barreling straight at them you're on a bridge I don't know where this bridge came from you're on a bridge over the workers and there's a guy standing next to you all all you got to do to stop the train from hitting those people would be to flip the guy standing next to you off the bridge because as he falls to his death the workers will notice and the train will notice and the the workers will be able to get out of their way and train no okay see okay so so that's everybody says no right and and the the question is is it because you're touching the guy or is the lever your remote and people are then and they don't know the answer I think that's the answer the answer is you could have thrown yourself why didn't you throw yourself if you're so adamant about saving those Five Guys why are you sacrificing Bubba here when you could go and I think that's the real reason the people who said yes in the first scenario say no in the second is they don't want to die and it's morally gross to sacrifice the guy standing next to you but the researchers said they couldn't figure it out I'm pretty sure this is obvious I'm pretty sure that's the answer and and I and that that's the thing that I don't get about the United States in our policy towards Israel okay if it's such a good idea why don't we do it here let's give the Israelis a Homeland here that'll be Jewish only and if you're not Jewish you have to get out and when you put it in those terms suddenly it becomes maybe not so desirable and then then the other one is the other question is Palestine obviously had nothing to do with the Holocaust we're obviously doing this in part because of the Holocaust why don't then why didn't we carve off a chunk of Northern Germany and call it new Israel we could hurg could have become New Jerusalem and just give him Northern Germany right that only seems fair especially since what most of the Jews that we're talking about were either American Jews and most of them were of German descent or they were European Jews and most of them were of German descent right there's a reason why Yiddish was the dominant Jewish language anguage in Europe Yiddish is just German with a Jewish accent and some Hebrew words Yiddish is also awesome Language by the way um some of the coolest words ever are yish but anyway it's a different story didn't they wouldn't be close to Jerusalem and all okay but then but then you say well so then it's a religious thing but most sists will go no this isn't about religion he's like well if it's not about religion then why do you want to be so close to Jerusalem clearly it's about religion but then it's but then they say no I'm I'm an atheist or I'm a secularist Jew and I'm I'm a Zionist it's like well then why did it have to be Jerusalem this was our homeland this was your Homeland you're old I don't understand here's the twist Palestinians are of Jewish descent and are ethnically more Jewish than the European and American Jews who went and created Israel so every time a Palestinian is murdered by an Israeli a person who's more Jewish is killed by a person who is less Jewish it's true that the Israeli is actually practicing Judaism or as a secular Jew and it's true that those those Palestinians are Christians and Muslims who who have whose ancestors converted from Judaism to Christianity and Islam but it's just a weird ironic twist I mean it just it's bit it's embittering how ironic it is it just doesn't make any sense and and here's the problem I don't think I said this plainly last time so say it and I and then I'll let you go cuz I'm way over but I'm sorry I let let me just do this the problem is if you said okay we're going to create a new a new state and it'll be secular it's not for one religion anymore it'll be a democracy secular and they'll be rights minorities and uh by the way mamar Gaddafi actually suggested calling it istin Israel and Palestine istin so sounds terrible to me but whatever I don't care what you want to call this thing call it Israel call it Palestine call it is call it Israel Palestine with a Hy foration like your parents did with you I don't care whatever it is that makes you happy but if you did it suddenly there' be 13 million Palestinians who are Christian and Muslim I think it's like 10 10% Christian 90% Muslim and then there'll be six million Jews so the Jews would become an instant minority in that state and they don't want that to happen that's why they're fighting the Palestinians they're not fighting the Palestinians because the Palestinians are attacking them the Palestinians aren't attacking them they're fighting the Palestinians because they don't want to have Palestine integrated with them because they'll instantly lose their majority there are actually 7 million Palestinians living in Palestine and Israel but five million are confined to the concentration camp that that we call the Gaza Strip it's just a concentration camp and then the ghetto that we call the West Bank it's basically a bunch of little ghetto pockets and and and so by doing that what the Israelis have done is they've created a situation where the natives are in internal Exile right they're they're still in Palestine they're just not in their homes their homes are in hia or or or yafa or Jerusalem and so they're displaced inside their own country as a majority but with no rights to citizenship it it's this is like the most nasty thing since apartheid Israel apartheid South Africa it might might be worse than apartheid South Africa in some ways and I mean so fact it is when you think about it because at least in the case of apartheid Israel there was I'm sorry I keep doing that apartheid South Africa there was no blockade preventing the Import and Export of goods into black neighborhoods right CU white people were making money off of the black PE the black population so you wouldn't do that there was the same mass migration effect three two and a half to three and a half million ah I just realized something so so I even said this in class earlier so I've been the history I Learned was the largest forced M Mass migration in in human history was South Africa when it became AP partide forced two and a half to three and a half million blacks to move out of white neighborhoods and and by the way and Asians too the the the Indian population was also separated out well uh the vast majority of the 5 million Palestinians living in Gaza Strip in West Bank are themselves refugees forced out of the rest of Palestine so that's actually probably a bigger population because I I would be surprised if it was more than one and a half million people were actually from those two places I bet three and a half million were are are actually displaced refugees um anyway it's not the only Refugee crisis we have we also have now the Syrian refugee crisis and Iraqi Refugee crisis Jordan the last time I checked and I don't know how accurate these stats are Jordan is like 25% Jordanian now it's it's something like 60% Palestinian 25% Jordanian and the fif the remaining 15% are Syrian and incredible anyway all right I'm over so
